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'Price of gritting side roads - £3m'
By Mike PyleJanuary 14, 2010
Council bosses say they have been doing all they can to minimise the severe disruption caused by the snowy weather.
Since the first flakes fell on Thursday, December 17, the council has gritted around 7,000km of roads, forcing salt stocks to a critical level at one point, schools have been shut and refuse collections suspended.
Bin collections suspended again
Parts of Bracknell ground to a halt again yesterday after more snow fell overnight on Tuesday.
Chaos on the roads as snow hits Bracknell
But Bracknell Forest Council chief executive Tim Wheadon says despite the widespread disruption there is little more the council could have done to improve the situation.
Mr Wheadon said: “Would we go in and change the network we grit? No.
“Would the same happen again? Yes.
Council were 'prepared for snow'
“I think what we would look to do is review what worked well and what didn’t work well.
“There would almost certainly be some minor changes – one thing I would highlight is that we would keep the information on our website more current and update it four or five times per day.
“I think the vast majority of people have been pretty understanding although there have been complaints and queries.”
Ice makes conditions treacherous in Bracknell
The majority of the complaints focused on the conditions of smaller estate roads which are not part of the primary or secondary gritting routes but Mr Wheadon said gritting all the roads in the area would be a multi-million pound operation.
He added: “We’d probably need about 10 to 15 more gritters to go into the estate roads which, at about £100,000 a pop, would cost about £1.5 million and we’d need 60 extra staff which would be another £1.5 million – all that would be the equivalent of around five per cent on Council Tax.”
He also pointed out that extending the network of salt bins, of which there are 55 around the borough, would be expensive.
Steve Loudoun, the council’s chief officer for environment and public protection added: “There are some misconceptions.
“The salt is only effective to minus three degrees Centigrade – when it’s lower than that we could put any amount of salt down and it wouldn’t be effective.
“Also the salt we use on primary routes is more pure than the grit people are used to seeing, it’s white, not sand coloured, so it can look like the roads haven’t been salted when they have.”
Responding to questions prompted by Graham Garner of Roman Hill who wrote to The Standard to complain about the lack of salt bins in his area and others, Mr Loudoun said: “We get requests from the public for grit bins and if we honoured every one of them there would be thousands of them because at times like this every incline is a problem.
“At the moment they are put in situations where we know there are problems, they are there so that people can help themselves on problem junctions.
Residents advised to shovel, sweep and salt
“We have something like 55 bins and to service them once a day it takes two lorries all day – you can imagine how long it would take if we increased that number.
“This time of year everyone wants a grit bin, but for the rest of the year they are a target for vandals and no-one wants one outside their house.”
Mr Wheadon also said there have been problems with people being abusive to their refuse collection staff and with some people taking grit from the bins around the area and then offering to clear people’s drive with it in exchange for money.
Anyone who is offered a service like this should decline it and call the police, he said.
The council announced last Thursday that it was to make two day’s supply of salt last until Tuesday but warmer weather over the weekend meant the supply lasted longer and it was then boosted by a further delivery of 50 tonnes on Tuesday.
But stocks are now affected by a national shortage of salt which has meant the Government has taken control of the national stock and divides it up to authorities in the greatest need.
Do you think the council did all it could to cope with the snow? Leave your comments below.

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When you compare the neighbour unitary authorities and Surrey CC one of the nearest council councils it is generally accepted that when compared to the efforts of Bracknell Forest they all performed well and managed to keep the network clear. Having worked in both the public and private sectors in Highways and Transportation and currently on the Network Infrastructure on the Highways Agency M25 DBFO Joint Venture Contract I do have some experience in providing an acceptable service, forward planning and Winter Maintenance. I understand the Councils need to keep the strategic routes open namely the A322 although in Bracknell’s case this is only in part the M3/M4 network corridor as some sections of this route are maintained by neighbouring authorities. Bracknell Forest Council were totally caught out on the 21/22 December 2009 resulting in the abandonment of numerous vehicles all over the network but mostly in the areas where descents and inclines where located together with a combination of deep snow and ice were all contributing factors although in some minor cases driver impatience.
I think the Chief Executive should have ventured out onto the Borough’s network on 21/22 December 2009 and 06/07 January /2010 as he would have seen total gridlock of the Borough which in the case of 06/01/2010 was embarrassingly reported on local television and radio. Yet again the descents and inclines were not targeted sufficiently and so escaping parts of the Borough for those willing to attempt a journey to work was impossible. Once I eventually managed to escape the minor roads and Bracknell’s area on 08/01/2010 the other authority’s roads were totally acceptable.
I reside in Binfield which was totally cut off and would have greatly benefitted from just a snow plough to remove the depth of snow on the local and estate roads. Until the snow arrived most people probably did not realise how difficult it is to enter and exit the village due to the topography. Perhaps the Council’s CE should have suggested that all Binfield residents should drive 4 x 4 vehicles which is just as silly as his statement that ‘a further 10 to 15 more gritters and 60 extra staff would be required adding further increase to the Council Tax charge of some £3m’ .
When assessing Network Needs and making a business case it is very easy to jump to the Borough’s conclusion that money and resources are the only solution. He must be living on another planet as it is well documented that both central and local government staff numbers have substantially increased during the Labour administration and that terms and conditions as reporting in ‘The Times’ have increased over the last few years by 7%. Has he actually considered costing what the adaption of the current fleet of refuge/road sweeps and other large council vehicles might cost to accommodate the fitment of snow ploughs and additional training of the existing work force to provide rota cover so these vehicles can be constantly on the network? The depth of snow was certainly a major contributing factor as the gritting process and as stated when temperatures rendering gritting ineffectual the removal of deep snow is still a priority. Regarding refuse collections once again the Borough has totally failed to undertake this necessary task. Other authorities have arranged for collectors to work longer hours and even Saturdays to clear the backlog but apparently not the Borough. The Borough should not be able to hide behind the suggesting that the collectors are all contributing to the gritting effort or clearing footways or even Health and Safety criteria. Although a gritter was spotted in Binfield the driver was very selective where he gritted and no footways were cleared by the remaining no driving refuse collection work force. The weather was not unprecedented, most authorities were proactive not reactive like Bracknell.
As most of the Borough’s network has actually been provided by the New Town Commission and Berkshire CC so I really cannot see where the council spends the Highways and maintenance budget. You find it hard to identify any major improvements other than say the new pedestrian bridge over the A3095 Mill Lane together with some safety barrier upgrades near to Twin Bridges roundabout and a revised junction arrangement on the A329 Berkshire Way at Coppid Beech. Most of the other recent improvements at the Broad Lane/A322 old RAF site and junction of Western Road/Cain Road have been as a result of 278 Agreement funding. So, I would ask again where is all the money spent, certainly not in Binfield or indeed many other neighbourhood areas within the Borough. I must therefore conclude that the majority of the Council Tax is used for salaries of an ever growing work force that whenever the going gets tough go AWOL and hide in their ivory towers and hide behind bureaucracy.
These are questions that the reporter could have asked and the readers should have enjoyed some investigative journalism rather than this important topic subject be glossed over and the authority use the media as a tool to defend their inability to provide a public service for the residents of Bracknell Forest.
17/01/2010 at 14:15 Offensive or Inappropriate?
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For the record, Bracknell & Wokingham Roads were too dangerous to risk so I used the trains. South West Trains did their best but with an obvious lack of de-icing equipment delays were inevitable. The guys at Martins Heron Station did their best to clear snow and ice from the platforms and bridge.
I also walked from Bracknell to Ascot in the snow to deliver food etc to an elderly relative who had been in Hospital over the Christmas period so don't try to get me on that one.
Myself and a neighbour cleared snow and ice from our road so try again.
At no time with all of the miles that I walked in the snow did I see any one from BFBC doing anything to help other than on just one occasion I saw a gritter.
If you actually believe that it would have costed £3 million to shovel a bit of grit on the estates roads then I suspect that you work for BFBC. If not then you have swallowed their propaganda hook line and sinker.
UKIP Bracknell I agree. I do not belive that any of us were put on this planet to be tax slaves to keep a bunch of no-hopers in index linked pension jobs.
15/01/2010 at 17:06 Offensive or Inappropriate?
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Bob W.
I agree regarding many many people who are elected to serve, seem to, after the election, conveniently and swiftly forget the purpose to why they were elected in the first place - to serve the public, who voted them in in the first place.
There are too many career politicians who spend the majority of their time ensuring they are fully briefed on their party message, rather than having a conviction and a purpose of their own. Rightly or wrongly, I believe that I'm only on this planet once, and I wasn't born to be a puppet for someone else.
Phyl, it's good that people are starting to hit the nail on the head about some of the rediculous laws in this country. From the clearing of the pavements as you mention, to Myleene Klass receiving an unofficial police warning for wielding a knife from inside her own house against potential intruders (later disputed by the police), to burglars suing householders for falling through glass rooves, and all the many others that always put peoples 'rights' above peoples RESPONSIBILITIES first.
15/01/2010 at 10:40 Offensive or Inappropriate?
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Bob W - I am very interested to know if you managed to get to work on the days that we suffered heavy snowfall? If you did, then shouldnt you be thanking the Council for doing all they can to keep the main roads as clear as reasonably possible? If you didnt manage to get to work then how on Earth can you criticise the Council and their workers? As I see it, they have been working round the clock to maintain services. I understand that you may have places to be but where is the thanks to those people at the Council who have gone the extra mile to look after the elderly and vunerable residents at this time of year? Would you have offered to go out and deliver 'Meals on Wheels' to the elderley? Did you even attempt to clear the snow outside your own house or on your road? In these severe weather conditions, that only happen, say, every 30 years, please take some responsibility and stop blaming everything on the Council.
As the article states, it would cost £3 million or a 5% increase in Council tax to grit the side roads on smaller estates. This would not be accepted by the residents for an event that happens approx. every 30 years. Residents would be in uproar.
UKIP Bracknell - I completely agree with you. It is a fine balancing act and it doesnt matter which way the Council go, they will always be wrong. This is an 'Act of God' and wasnt foreseeable. Winters like this are very far and few between and I hope we dont suffer another one like this for a long time to come!
Sandyman - Maybe the Government are involved because this is not a localised problem, areas across the whole country are going through exactly what we are experiencing. There are problems in our own Borough of theft of salt so maybe they just need to ensure that all areas of the UK who are in the same situation as us, have enough salt to keep the main roads running.
Many people have given there all to keep the Borough going, from the general public helping people get out of difficult situations to the emergency services and Council workers. Instead of critising them, we ought to be thanking each and every one of them, including the Chief Exec of BFBC, for keeping the Borough going through this 'extreme' weather we have all suffered. Hopefully the end is in sight and then everyone can begin to complain about the potholes in the roads that the freeze and thaw effect has developed!!!
14/01/2010 at 22:49 Offensive or Inappropriate?
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The Council have had years to prepare for such an event. The fact that they were not prepared is indicative of incompetence and laziness. If the Council were for example to budget to replenish stocks of salt every year regardless of the weather conditions, then there would have been an abundance of the stuff. Council tax payers and Businesses will have to stump up their taxes regardless of the fact that the Council have not provided the services that they are paid to deliver. Many business have probably been brought to the brink of disaster by the circumstances and have been hung out to dry by the failings of both local and national government. All we hear from the council are pitiful excuses. They continue to recieve their wages no matter how badly they fail the public they purport to serve. The Council believe that the public are there to serve them, not they to serve the public. We need a radical overhaul of both local and national government. Is this something that UKIP would be prepared to deliver if elected ?.
14/01/2010 at 20:13 Offensive or Inappropriate?
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Central government being involved only to the extent of offering advice / suggestion / 'best practice' (I hate that expression!) on any particular topic; in this case, recommended grit-salt stock levels.
After that, the council are or should be able to use this advice as a resource only, and decide what or how applicable it is for their local council.
I think it boils down to 3 main things:
1) How foreseeable is/was the depth and length of the current cold snap, and were council decisions made in accordance with what is/was/should have been foreseeable
2) Are weather patterns changing
3) Is Bracknell topographically or otherwise different than the median/mean in terms of its' requirements?
To be fair to the council, if their stock decisions had been reversed & they overstocked compared to what should be adequate for standard requirements, I think tax-payers would have been up in arms if a story appeared saying tens of thousands of taxpayer cash had been tied up in salt stocks just in case a one-in-fifty-year likelihood of sustained snow & icy weather occurred.
I'm not specifically defending the council on what's happened, all I'm saying is that I can see the othre side of the arguement at the same time, and it is a fine balancing act.
14/01/2010 at 18:30 Offensive or Inappropriate?
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Simple or am I missing something!!!
14/01/2010 at 14:37 Offensive or Inappropriate?
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Given central government's advice of 6-day salt supplies, BFC were not the only council in the country to be caught out, and hindsight is a wonderful thing: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8457458.stm
however, given the prediction on climatic change, should this forecast harder & protracted colder weather in years to come, it is possible that government advice would need to be fine-tuned with this in mind, though as stated in the article, if a product is only effective at minus 3 degrees, this will have limited impact.
If indeed the world is changing, we may need to consider having winter set-ups on cars, such as either winter tyres and/or wheel chains.
Murray Barter UKIP Bracknell PPC
14/01/2010 at 12:31 Offensive or Inappropriate?
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On Wednesday 13th January the general public woke up and found that chaos on the roads had hit the area once again as the council had failed to grit the roads overnight. The snowfall (5 -7 cm) overnight left the A321 and A3095 main roads in the Sandhurst area covered in sheet ice to drive on. I had never seen the roads as bad as this. Gritting and snow ploughing from 10am onwards with a temperature rise eased the problem but action should have been taken before the ice was aloud to form during the night. If the council continue with their current policies and procedure in place for these conditions we have experience this winter we should all invest in ice skates and skis it would be safer.
14/01/2010 at 10:59 Offensive or Inappropriate?
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